00:30:53 Maja Harris (she/her): Is it possible to make the text larger? :-) 00:36:12 Theresa Mai (she/her): The poll won’t let us vote, since we are panelists. 00:37:30 Nina Khanjan: Modified consensus 00:39:52 Katherine Thomas (she/her): I think quorum would be 9 00:41:40 Annie Kallen (she/her): Agreed, the polls are helpful. 00:42:39 Nina Khanjan: Yes I’m fine with that. I can switch my vote 00:42:58 J'reyesha Brannon (she/her): I use “fist to five” in a few other spaces 00:43:13 J'reyesha Brannon (she/her): 5 is a go. 4, is mostly. 3 is I have questions, 2 and 1 are like a no 00:43:33 Georgina Miltenberger: Agreed 00:43:54 Maja Harris (she/her): Same 00:43:56 J'reyesha Brannon (she/her): 2/3 sounds good! agreed 00:44:09 Theresa Mai (she/her): Agreed. 00:44:10 Nina Khanjan: Yes for me 00:45:33 Jude Perez (they/them): 2/3 sounds good for me too 00:46:20 Salma Sheikh: i like fist to 5 00:46:43 J'reyesha Brannon (she/her): https://www.ncfp.org/knowledge/fist-to-five-voting-and-consensus/ 00:48:08 Timur Ender (he/him): One reason I like "aiming for consensus with a voting threshold" is because it gives us an opportunity to hear concerns and aim to address those concerns. 00:55:20 Annie Kallen (she/her): I think fist to five is too complex for an actual vote as long as the choices are binary. 00:59:03 Timur Ender (he/him): unstable wifi here. 01:03:18 Timur Ender (he/him): My concern with the sideways thumb is that there may be some confusion about whether that is a yes, no, or abstain. Plus, ppl may forget what we decided here today. I wonder whether it may be better to aim for "yes" or "no" with the ability to comment/explain one's vote. 01:03:44 Annie Kallen (she/her): I think you're right Timur. 01:03:57 Maja Harris (she/her): I agree 01:13:52 Marc Gonzales (he/him): i apologize, but I’ll have to leave the meeting at the break. Thanks for understanding. 01:17:09 Georgina Miltenberger: I need to leave at 7:10. 01:18:25 Danica Leung (she/her): Proxy voting is not allowed though, right? 01:18:33 Annie Kallen (she/her): I think it makes sense to count an abstaining person for quorum but not towards the 2/3 requirement. 01:18:39 Kali Odell (she/her): no proxy voting 01:18:39 Timur Ender (he/him): I support ability to abstain and abstention not breaking quorum. 01:18:58 Maja Harris (she/her): Agreed 01:22:49 Theresa Mai (she/her): I agree with Jude. 01:22:55 Marc Gonzales (he/him): I feel hopeful that we will have much more than the minimum quorum at each meeting. 01:24:04 J'reyesha Brannon (she/her): If we didn’t have the holiday week, I’d suggest meeting twice this month. 01:25:20 Salma Sheikh: I agree 01:29:39 Annie Kallen (she/her): 2/3 of 11 is 7ish. 2/3 of 12 is 8. So losing one person does affect things in that case. 01:34:15 Timur Ender (he/him): Agreed. There is a number of reasons for ppl to abstain 01:34:31 Theresa Mai (she/her): +1 Brannon 01:36:06 Annie Kallen (she/her): I think we're getting too in the weeds on this and it won't be a common issue. I'm okay with either counting the abstaining person towards the 2/3 or not at this point. 01:40:54 Maja Harris (she/her): I think the subcommittees will help with that, Salma! We’ll have more opportunities to get into details. 01:41:16 J'reyesha Brannon (she/her): She emailed them 01:41:50 Salma Sheikh: Thank you 01:41:57 Timur Ender (he/him): I think Annie and Salma make a good point which is that some ppl may care more about bylaws (and particular items) and others, like J'reyesha and I, are happy to have others who are more interested take the lead. 01:44:04 Theresa Mai (she/her): It’s okay to do a 1-5 when we come back on the topic. 01:49:54 Nina Khanjan (she/her): I need to log out for a few minutes be right back 01:50:01 Allison Brown (she/her), facilitator: Thanks, Nina! 01:52:28 Allison Brown (she/her), facilitator: 5 - heck yes; 4 - mostly yes; 3 - I want to talk more; 2 - I don't like it; 1 - This is a hard no 01:53:18 Georgina Miltenberger: Signing off…apologies! 01:53:28 Ariella Frishberg (she/her): The proposal is: Abstention is permitted. Abstainers do count toward the quorum requirement, but they do not count in meeting the 2/3 voting threshold requirement. 02:02:46 Nina Khanjan: Having access to the online form to share right away would be great. 02:06:17 Timur Ender (he/him): My 2 cents: 12/15 mtg: 2 min of public comment for 14 min Plan for half of Jan and March meetings (for example) to be listening session Written comments allowed to 400 words (esp if there is an expectation that cmte members are reading all of these) I like having public comments part of general mtg and not having all of it delegated to a subcmte where it may not see light of day by others. 02:09:02 Theresa Mai (she/her): @Timur, one idea is to have the subcommittee to bring a summary of testimony to the larger group. 02:11:44 Timur Ender (he/him): cool, and hopefully there is a pathway for members of the public to speak directly to full cmte should they choose 02:14:15 J'reyesha Brannon (she/her): Community Outreach Subcommittee 02:14:19 Maja Harris (she/her): Sorry if I missed this but can we open up written comment right away or do we need a vote? 02:14:23 J'reyesha Brannon (she/her): I’m interested in helping with that 02:15:32 Maja Harris (she/her): Great - look forward to hearing from the community! 02:15:38 Jude Perez (they/them): Me! :) 02:15:39 Theresa Mai (she/her): I’m happy to help with engagement! 02:18:06 Timur Ender (he/him): Just like polls within mtgs, I like the idea of polls between meetings (thanks Kali!) so co-chairs have a starting point for discussion on some of these longer discussion items. 02:18:49 Theresa Mai (she/her): Does Jude still have a question? Sorry. 02:18:54 Theresa Mai (she/her): Nvm